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Post by Jason Arilani on Sept 23, 2008 17:02:57 GMT -4
I definatly say Band is much harder. The fact of memorizing fingers, having to pay money to get the instrument repaired, having the instrument break easier then a voice can, having to read the music, and keep the correct melody, and tempo, making sure you have the right mouth position (More important for brass instruments). Plus, there are also many different instruments that one can learn, and sometimes does. A voice is a voice. There might be different levels of singing, but its still a voice. However, a clarinet is different then a trumpet. They are two different things. So I definately say band is harder. And this is coming from having experiance in both Choir and in Band.
I also think band is harder had it in sixth grade had a brass and you gotta have the notes the mouth and the slide(had tombone) in the right spot for the note and you have to take a deep enough breath to get the higher notes.
Sept 23, 2008 22:40:14 GMT -4
Last Edit: Sept 23, 2008 22:43:46 GMT -4 by xavier
I also think band is harder had it in sixth grade had a brass and you gotta have the notes the mouth and the slide(had tombone) in the right spot for the note and you have to take a deep enough breath to get the higher notes.
I thought you needed more breath for the low notes. Or at least, that's how it was on the Tuba. And with flutes, it requires a lot of air, no matter how high or low the note. It mostly affects volume with flutes.
This is a silly debate. I attend ASU School of Music, and I can tell you that both disciplines require a very different set of skills. Everyone expresses music in ways that make sense to them and those vehicles of expression cannot be compared.
We may as well discuss Math versus English. I find the channels of language much easier to navigate than those of numbers; hence it is the method I prefer to express myself. Others find the straightforwardness, the logic and clarity of math to be a comfort. Can they really be compared?
Some people find it a difficult task to stand upon a stage, with their face towards the audience, telling a story through their voices and bodies, controlling thier breath intake, vowels, intonation, voice coloring, language pronounciatin, etc. Some people find it difficult to memorize a set of fingerings, marching patterns, carrying heavy instruments while being absolutely precise musically so as to help maintain the whole.
Here in the school of music, the music theater majors continually comment, “Oh, the voice majors are terrible at expression. Anyone can just stand there and sing” While the voice majors insist, “The Music Theater majors ignore technique! Their careers will never go anywhere.” Meanwhile the instrumentalists are busy pointing out, “Well, the singers aren’t really musicians at all. They aren’t really fluent in music, and goddamn it when those sopranos warm up they feel the need to hit the highest note they can. Do you know how annoying that is? Some days I feel like taking my horn and just nailing an F first thing and see how they like it.”
In the end...we're talking apples and oranges, while music is the wine that fills the cup of silence.
This is a silly debate. I attend ASU School of Music, and I can tell you that both disciplines require a very different set of skills. Everyone expresses music in ways that make sense to them and those vehicles of expression cannot be compared.
We may as well discuss Math versus English. I find the channels of language much easier to navigate than those of numbers; hence it is the method I prefer to express myself. Others find the straightforwardness, the logic and clarity of math to be a comfort. Can they really be compared?
Some people find it a difficult task to stand upon a stage, with their face towards the audience, telling a story through their voices and bodies, controlling thier breath intake, vowels, intonation, voice coloring, language pronounciatin, etc. Some people find it difficult to memorize a set of fingerings, marching patterns, carrying heavy instruments while being absolutely precise musically so as to help maintain the whole.
Here in the school of music, the music theater majors continually comment, “Oh, the voice majors are terrible at expression. Anyone can just stand there and sing” While the voice majors insist, “The Music Theater majors ignore technique! Their careers will never go anywhere.” Meanwhile the instrumentalists are busy pointing out, “Well, the singers aren’t really musicians at all. They aren’t really fluent in music, and goddamn it when those sopranos warm up they feel the need to hit the highest note they can. Do you know how annoying that is? Some days I feel like taking my horn and just nailing an F first thing and see how they like it.”
In the end...we're talking apples and oranges, while music is the wine that fills the cup of silence.
*grins* Excellent post there, Aryn. Excellent analogy for the conclusion as well, I must say.
However, in this debate, we're taking these individual forms of expression and ramming them against each other. This whole thing can probably be passed off as a popularity contest.
Also, I'll admit that we're not taking into accountance the level of which the music is performed. Say, for instance, we had one side of the story coming from a Varsity Tenor Saxophone player, which, I feel, can be widely accepted as rather difficult. However, we also had testimony coming from an Opera Soprano, which should also be recognized as difficult. At this point, we couldn't necessarily choose one or the other unless we had someone who did both Varsity Tenor Sax. in Band and Opera Soprano in Choir.
All in all, though, your second paragraph pretty much summed it up:
We may as well discuss Math versus English. I find the channels of language much easier to navigate than those of numbers; hence it is the method I prefer to express myself.
That right there is basically it. You've taken both Math and English, but you find Math harder than the latter. That's what this whole matter is about: Getting votes on which is harder. I know that there may be a few single-sided votes in here, but if you look at the majority, most of the people in here have done both Band and Choir.
(P.S. Please correct me if I got you wrong somewhere in there )