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Why? Because it's killing WD, you may not see it now, but it's slowly taking effect and seeping into place.
So, to begin, here
:: :: :: Rant warning zone // ENTER AT OWN RISK \\ :: :: ::
Now...
I'm not exactly sure just what it is that you people are trying to accomplish with posting absolutely everywhere, but it needs to stop. If you're doing it to raise your post count, that can easily be reset to zero and you'll be without it. If you're doing it due to the fact you think it'll make you well-known, well, that's working for you, but it's making you more of an annoyance than an actual member of the site.
"Because on the internet, it doesn't matter what you're saying...
It's about how loud you're saying it!!!!!!"
-- Phillip DeFranco
Sad how that isn't the way it is in a role-play site, now is it? No, it's not.
So, onto the sub-headings!
In-Character
Okay... since when was quantity better than quality ever? Seriously... you may get your responses out faster if you slack off on a post, and that's alright for maybe... once every blue moon, but if you're constantly coming out with half-ass posts that could be written in the matter of five-minutes, then you should maybe think about just what type of image you're putting on yourself.
This is a role-play site... see that? ROLE-PLAY. It's about language and way of expressing one's self through words, if you're just jumbling up words together it doesn't become so much of a way of expressing just what one character is doing, feeling, reacting and thinking, it's just saying 'here is my character, you fill in the blanks'. That not only results in lost time and effort in RPing, it also is very irritating when looking back to find something.
--- Ex. (Yay, picking on Instructor time. *drags in Shiay* OOC character, but you can kill me later maybe >>)
Let's say I'm in a thread with Shiay's character Hikari. I want to find the part where she talked about her early childhood life. If she posts so much that I can't depict that part, then that there is a problem all on its own. Another problem that could arise is the fact that she could undergo certain emotions, though there's something that could be missing in order for me to respond.
'Ikari cried' That doesn't mean much... this could mean she had a very humorous past, a very sad one, or she could be experiencing some form of allergic reaction to the headband Yuffie had misplaced earlier. ---
Thusly, not only do you mess your post up, you make other people have less to respond with, making them worse, having chain reactions occur, it's not a pretty site when you go and overlook the archives.
Mass-amounts of OOC context is also a problem. If I'm pushing a thread to a third page in which over half of the posts are OOC solely (there is one that's out there that will go unnamed due to one RPer that I know isn't needing to be reading this). Just... jeez, there's a cbox, there are PMs, there's MSN, contact them somehow, someway that doesn't need to be seen to the mass public.
Another is the fact you don't need to have a character in every world... if you leave the site, then what? We're left with pretty much dead threads and someone that's closely intertwined themselves in the mini-plots to something that are missing a large piece and have to take a break just to find where it is we are. It's just... self-absorbing I believe. And as much as you want to argue with me that you're trying to be an active RPer, I'll just shoot you down by pointing out the fact that if you are an active RPer you will know when you're needed to post, when you're not needed, and when you are.
Out-Of-Character
I've got considerably less on this subject than I do on IC... mostly because this is more about why I'm irritated IC... and I think I'm running out of steam and time to work on my essay.
Ugh... has anyone looked at the game boards in the past little while? It seems like more of a little conversation more than anything else... seriously, I go there just to get a good laugh or two, not figure out what's true and what isn't and about what someone had for lunch, if someone cares about the fact that someone else listens to Marilyn Manson... no, I go there to go away from life and junk stuff... sdlfdsbldsfbl.
C-Box... I don't care if you're a damn gummi bear, if you're eating stuff, about whether you're trying to shout anyone out, you don't disclude someone. I can point a finger to someone in particular, but that wouldn't be clear enough... no, I'd rather hint and have them try and figure out if I'm talking about them.
If someone is just talking normally about OOC stuff, don't start talking about something with someone else and just completely ignore them... chances are they're someone that just isn't in your circle of friends and is just trying to pass time.
Most of the main members don't check the cbox anymore because we already know the images that we're going to see upon looking at it, and the kind of messages that are plaguing it, so we don't check up.
So...
"YUFFIE HEY YUFFIE! YUFFFFIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE" isn't going to be getting my attention much if I already see a plague of gummi bear loling pictures and chatspeaking things I don't care about.
I dunno... I like the fact that we got back to the 'chat' aspect of tat box, I just hate how less people are using it due to their own reasons.
Final Thoughts
In conclusion, I just guess I miss what WD once was and how it used to run, with the incoming 'spammers' coming in and just not caring for that, we're losing the older members that remember what it was like, and I deeply miss that...
So, whatever, kill it if you want, not like the people that actually needed to read this read it all through.
Ok, I'm sorry if the Gummi Bear thing bothered you too much. I would have stopped earlier if someone had PMed me about it, but nobody did. I didn't do it to annoy people and things like that, but now I learned that it did. Anyway, it's already over, it will be unlikely to hear from the Gummi Bear Song, Gummi Bear Disease, etc. etc. from me again.
Thank you Yuffie... you have made my Hikari muse feel special... I'm not sure if I should consider that a good thing or a bad thing.
But yes... all of what Yuffie says is something I've been having problems with as well-- and most likely the other Instructors, too! As I've said in other rants that I've so typed up, we are human beings.... We have lives, families and priorities to take care of as well as doing these things for this site. We do the things we do here because we have an active interest and have expressed those interests in how we've assisted the site. The admin, Bluey, doesn't just pick us out of the blue just to fill in staff positions-- no, instead she actually sees who would be the best candidate for the certain staff positions that she's created.
Pertaining the RPing-- yes, again as Yuffie said-- add more oomf to your posts. This is a site that is originally made for Intermediate to Advanced[/u][/i] roleplayers, not just anyone that walks in and is, 'ooh, i lik rol plying, im going 2 join.' No-- it's people like that that we usually send to the RP Academy on the dot. Now, I know that our Instructors Leon, Sephiroth and Sage had real life work to be doing outside the forums, I mean, more so than myself. For me, it's easier to do work on the site because I'm home schooled and get a lot of my studies finished faster. But it wouldn't hurt to actually get some of the legwork done while you're actually here.
But see-- being an Instructor, I know why it is that they lose their motivation to do so. It's the PMs that flood our inbox and the (please excuse my French) shit we see in the CBox with people going, 'OMG luk at mi profil, lik, i edtd n so go accep plz' or 'please look at my profile, i got it up.' -- See, there's something that our Instructors 'facepalm' at and there's things that we respect.
Facepalm Worthy Things
- l337 sp33|< and Chat Speak
Yes, there are times we use this so called 'l337 sp33|<', but this is more of a forum joke that's not used for serious threads and if we're making fun of something. If you use it excessively, it really makes you look less intelligible than you probably are.
Also, things like, 'OMG, i ttly ROLF'd!' is something that is way not 'netiquitte'. Again, like l337 sp33|<, it makes one look less intelligible. There also stands the fact that there are still a lot of people that don't know what a lot of the chat speak means. Hell, I leaned what 'lol' finally meant when I was 12-- sad, no?
- Improper Grammar, Spelling and Punctuation
'lik, i totaly got tht 1! sooo awsum!' This is the kind of typing that makes some of us (me for sure) want to hit you with a freaking rolled up newspaper, or even better, a baseball bat... an aluminum baseball bat-- that way it doesn't crack into two after the first hit.
There's such a thing called a Dictionary, I'm sure you have one in your household-- I mean, it's a pretty common thing to have. If you can't find one, HEY! There's an online dictionary-- and guess what! It's so simple as typing in the web browser: www.DICTIONARY.com << Yeah, that's right, 'dictionary' is freaking capitalized to stress the simplicity of finding it.
- The PMs That Flood Our Inbox
Again-- we're human beings, not machines that bend to everyone's bidding. Flooding out Inbox with messages going, "hey, please check out my profile, I really want to get to role playing!" There's usually a pretty good reason that we're not-- and it normally includes one of the above stated two reasons.
Things We Respect[/u]
- Sentence Structure and Proper Etiquette
The reason being is that we like seeing that. It shows us that people haven't all fallen to the darkness of what the internet has turned most of us into. It shows promise and it's another thing that shows us that we most likely won't be having that person being kicked to the RP Academy. That's not always the case, but the RP Academy is just there to help people who want to become better writers... well... better! It doesn't always mean the people who can't punctuate properly or give the correct type of grammar.
- Patience
IT IS A VIRTUE! I mean, I know I'm not exactly the most 'haha, my turn to post, lemme get to it now' type person-- but again, when people don't nag us continuously to post to a thread that we're in or to check their profiles, it's really a breath of fresh air.
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Okay-- so... now that I'm done with that. I was actually talking to Yuffie last night, as well as some of the other staff and members. I was bringing up the topic on the Keyblades and Original Characters. Now... there's a lot of people that don't even know why we don't allow OCs to wield KeyBlades right off the bat. Well, there's a thing... it's called reading... it's kind of necessary when you're part of a role playing site.
We have this set up so we don't have a crap load of KeyWielders rampaging throughout the forums. A lot of the times, we see people wanting KeyBlades for their own reasons. See, the thing is-- KeyBlades aren't just for the one person that's out there for him/herself. KeyBlades choose the wielder. Just like how it is in the game, we have that in the forums. People with a strong heart are normally the ones that get the blade. It was shown in the games. Sora got a KeyBlade because for one, he was selfless and did what it took to keep what was supposed to be in balance in balance! Riku also got one-- why? Because he, too, was strong of heart, but he also did what he could to protect Sora and Kairi from Ansem-- a selfless act with all things considered!
We have the Keyblade competitions like the one that's going on, yes-- and unlike some people on the site, I actually have the decency to vote for people that aren't me. The things that I took into consideration when voting for the blades I chose was based on several key things; abilities, originality and lastly, design. There were one in particular that was a ripped combination of several different KeyBlades and morphed into one, it seemed-- I'm not going to name any names.
There's something that's been going on in discussion about having Neutral staff members that moderate characters and their development. Though... I suppose that that may be handed to the Historians of the forums-- again, I'm not sure! So don't bite my head off for this. It's perhaps something that'll have to be put into discussion once again.
NOW-- onto other things... I'm with Yuffie-- I really miss how World Destiny used to be. There wasn't so many threads that had fucked up posting orders with a lot of the same people in it. And yes, I'm guilty of role playing with some of the same people over and over again-- but I am trying to change that, which is why I opted to be a Historian for not just one, but two worlds.
The Staff members really don't get a lot of credit for the things we do. We really do do our best. It may not be the thing that members are looking forward to sometimes, but we try to do what's in the community's best interest to try and make this site something that people can truly enjoy. I mean-- what's role playing to us? Role playing is something we enjoy, right? So... staff members are here to help the members of the site so that we can at least try and make it enjoyable for everyone. Also, I apologize on behalf of the Instructors for not getting things finished and checked quickly-- however, c'est la vie.
REGARDING THE CBOX-- I used to love role playing in that thing, really, I did. Then certain things happened, and more often times than not, these days, it's a spam city more than anything. I mean... I remember when the CBox used to be like the hangout for all the RPers that were on the site at the time. I mean, I kind of miss that-- and granted, I like having MSN RPs with the forumies-- but... some people don't have MSN and thus leaves the CBox as the only choice for that... and I've kind of given up on that place now.
I'm just gonna slip in here and express some turmoil and mixed things, since we all decided to be honest here. I'm done fighting this fight a lot of the time. Truth be told, yeah, I'm busy with a lot of things. I've about about two months, just like a couple of other members of the staff, to get my life together and get my feet on the ground.
Means I have little time, sometimes, for this place. But really? It's the lack of standards here, mostly, that just simply makes me cringe. They're dropped. And trying to pick them back up is gonna be an even harder fight. One I'm still ready to support, even if I am tired.
World Destiny will not be like it was before. Seph and I and other staff members as well, that deserve a lot of credit, have all been fighting that up-hill war. Even against Bluey, whom I still have some not-nice opinions about (I'll admit that much, but then again, everyone has not-nice thoughts about everyone else, too) in terms of that. Even in terms of the now. A lot of good that fight did us, huh? Not much has really changed. Only gotten worse.
As an Instructor, I tend to fail at it. And I feel guilty for it. But I'm bone weary, and the interest and motivation for the position. I will stick to it. Adhere to my standards as best as I am able, as I promised. No excuses. I'm going to do my job(s).
The only thing keeping me here right now? The fact that Leon is too prominent of a muse and the last year and almost-a-half is far too much work he's done In-Character for me to simply hand him off to someone new. People still rely on me.
The motivation is gone. Plain and simple. And I'm not only tired, but sorry for that. It irks me that as an Instructor, I can't do much more for serious issues than say to take it to a head-mod or Yuffie. That. Sucks. There's more I would like to do. Especially for Yuffie, since she's so frustrated, and for the other staff members who could possibly use my help. I'd have a different way of dealing with things if I were in her shoes. But I'm not, so there's little sense in making promises I'm not able to keep.
It's not something I say for people to just go "Well, crap, don't say that!" at. It's a truth.
Expect me to do my job. Expect me to help with whatever I can.
I don't want the credit, never needed it, and I will still try harder to improve things around here. It's just easier for the people of the site to know that what drives us, or a few of us, who are weary of how things have gone, wounded from how little people seem to heed our common sense.
None of us be paid to do it.
For the tl;dr (look it up, if you don't know what that means, you people should know how to use the Internet) for everyone else:
Yeah. Spamming us with "LOL LOK AT MY NEAT PRFILE I CAN RITE GUUD"? Knock it off. It's annoying. And makes my, personally, want to ignore it, even though I can't. Yes, we're not robots, and the OOC stuff? Save it for PMs if you need to have a discussion or find it getting too long. Learn Grammar. You people (most of you anyways) don't spend all of Junior High and High School in English class, not to grasp sentence structure. Spelling is appreciated, but, hey, I tend to be lax on grammar and spelling a lot of the time, being pretty dyslexic myself. The Internet said "Let there be Spell Checker". But if you don't use it? For me? It;s nice, but I over look it if it's not so bad.
If your profile takes forever. Deal. That means we're taking careful consideration of your skill and trying to balance out what we need for it to have. It's not like we enjoy saying "sorry can't have this". We understand you worked hard, (most of you, anyways) and went to take the time to have so compassion for it.
TO THE INSTRUCTORS AND EVERY OTHER STAFF MEMBER. Learn to reject profiles that need it and have higher standards. I'm chiding even myself in that, simply because I have also failed to meet this standard. And to watch for people like "the doctor" who make mistakes and cause issue with other members of the site.
Got questions? PM us, please! If we can't handle it and send you to another mod? Sorry. That's outside of what we can do. We like solving the members' problems, to be of help, honest, even if we are irritated with some things. We're HERE for YOU GUYS. So please don't be afraid to talk to us and be very honest with things. We try to see it from your guy's point of view as best as we can, and appreciate you guys trying to see it from ours.
And to correct Shiay. Patience isn't a virtue. It's a practice. So hop to it.
I come off as mean, sarcastic, long-winded as all of hell (or 'ranty'), and caustic even while I try my best not to sound insulting or harsh. But few people listen to the sugar coated sense of things. I guess that make me live up to my screen name, doesn't it?
And that is all I have to say of the matter Yuffie has brought to light. So If you'll excuse me, I have some profile nazi-ing to do and some posts to write while I'm here.
Sigh.I feel so involved...But I am glad to see that.
About the keyblade´s contest, I felt regret to vote only for myself, but then it was too late.(But then again, I am the only one likes paint made stuff, so it doesn´t matter =P)
I used to be, or might still be, part of this problem. When I first joined I had the bare minimum of talent needed to Role Play without bugging the crap out of people trying to read my posts.
(Memory lane time) Like in the first thread I ever made, "The Wanderer" I think. My posts for the first 3 pages were the worst I've ever made. Then an Ex-Instructor helped me get my act together. Which really paid of in pages 4-11 of that thread. (I can't remember if people in that particular thread are still even here) Anyway. Yeah spam and "bad" RPing will always be a problem on any site you go to.
C-BOX -------- I don't much to rant about when it comes to the C-Box. But thats just me. I am irked that that so much profile discussion and other things regarding a completely different site are being conversated over. But again, this is just me talking.
Forum Games ------------------- Yes, the fact is that most of the games in their stray WAY off topic. Like in the Corrupted Wishes game and "Matching" one (cant remember the name of it). Some of the post in their are a little unnecessary and some I take offense to.
And Zexion and some others here, please leave Role out of this. I know you guy's have some repressed anger and frustration to what she might have done or posted. But dont bring specific people into this at all. Thanks.
*folds arms* I don't like spam. No one does. But really... I think we're all liable to it.
The games? Yeah, I do those 'unneeded' ones in the forum games, I'm not afraid to accept that. I made a mistake, it was a one time thing, whatever, we move on and it's changing.
The IC bit I'm with... making you wonder if they're in the thread for actual interest or ust to make them look more involved.
And... the cbox is a comment box, you can do whatever you want in there, but when you're
needing ten posts to say something you can in one
It gets sort of annoying... two or three, sure... whatever.
I dunno, bleh... 6 am isn't fun after an all-nighter.
But this thread shouldn't be just a 'let's flame other members' thread or a 'rantplz' thing... just a discussion that shouldn't be hating other members or anything (as I believe it says in the rules). So yeah... go angel of justice... whoo...
...Yuffie... you just hit me spot on.... I never even realized. My most humble apologies. I'm sorry, I thought I was a good writer, and I was wrong. I though I was good at grammar, I didn't know the first thing.I'm a poison to World Destiny. A poison to a thing I love. Yeah, I love World Destiny. And I offer my most sincere apologies. I've been a retard and a fool. But, as I'm sure you all are saddened to hear, as Yuffie has stated. I can't just leave. I'm in too many mini-plots. I'd leave too many characters just standing around wondering "what now?". I can't leave, but I will put more length and effort in my posts. As Shiay is teaching me too do. I should have asked an instructor for a lesson when I first made the account. I'll also cut down on my threads. Once again I offer my most humble and sincere apologies. I thought my activity was helping the site, when it was killing it. I'm a poison to World Destiny. Once again, I offer my most humble, and sincere apologies. I'm a fool, a retard, and anything else you can possibly come up with. Feel free to ban, insult, or really just give the cold shoulder. I'm an idiot.
~Fearon Aris
May 11, 2009 0:58:54 GMT -4
Last Edit: May 11, 2009 0:59:55 GMT -4 by fearonaris
But Fearon, you shouldn't put yourself down so much to were you say that your a poison to World Destiny, or even to call yourself an idiot or a retard. Your not. If you think your RP'ing skills need work, then just ask someone to help you with it. Im sure that they would more than glad to help you out. Hell, if you want to I could even help you out myself. Granted that I'm not the most descriptive writer here. But hey, I try.
I see yuffie's point. Not everyone knows how to write that well, heck even I'm not sure if I'm that good. The Cbox situation is a problem, which can be fixed with some strict new rules. I'm not sure how world destiny used to be like because I've only been here for a year.
All I can say is that people should give the staff some credit, they have lives like the rest of us. So they can't be everywhere at the same time. We should be making their life easier, not harder. The staff are doing their best, so plaese don't stress them.
And please stop making people leave the site!!, if I see one more member leave this site for any reason that isn't personal or because of another member, I'll have to take action.
Post by Jason Arilani on May 17, 2009 13:14:03 GMT -4
The one main thing I dislike on this site is how a thread would normally be only about 3 pages long but there is about another 3 pages filled with OOC things that are people having a problem with someone elses post *Looks at thread "Taking over the Castle"* It isn't needed in my opinion when you can simply PM someone about the problem, or once it has been modified, delete the OOC post. It isn't needed.
Post by Ellie who has 0% on May 17, 2009 20:28:09 GMT -4
Well it's good to no longer have everything all pent up, since no one is an expert or an actual nobody, a complete void. Of-course, this can continue forever, but might as well start finding solutions.
I learned that one can rant all they want, but it won't necessarily make a mass difference on one's wants. I'm not bombing down on you guys; plus ranting is good for you. It makes you feel..."lighter" at times, but the problem still exists.
Also a lesson: you won't have your demands met until you take action yourself. Sure this thread...helped in its own way as others feel guilt and responsible for negative outcomes, but sometimes literally pointing it out directly to a source helps.
[not saying you guys aren't..juuuust stating]
Enough times I have requested others to stop asking another or ranting about not having their character profile looked out, and they did after being put on the spotlight by a frustrated member, who didn't went in epic "grr" mode. I may not be a staff member, but even I get annoyed at the inconsideration. Also if you get fed up with members who may badger you, then it's time to take a stand.
Rules can always be edited, and people can get blocked from the site for a time period. It happens now with spamming the c-box, might as well do it for the lack of respect towards members and staff once given enough warnings. Heck make it a part of the rules. DON'T BADGER US ABOUT YOUR PROFILES ETC. ...if it is one already starting drawing out the penalty and crack a whip.
If you want this forum to stay an Intermediate to Advanced, then demand it. * You have the RP Academy to help others excell. (Good)
In many Intermediate to Advanced rping forums, there's a requirement for word length. The wired the site with codes that they won't allow posts that is so many words short. It may sound cruel to push others to reach a limit despite their muse, but hey...it gets what you want....right?
[if you don't like the idea, then good. =o It's a thing I do by pointing out what one may definately not want to cause another idea to ripple towards the surface]
If you want people to be willingly to take the intiative to try to do their best in an Intermediate and Advanced rping community, then only put up with those who are willingly. If they aren't willingly to atleast try, then it would be natural to cut them loose.
As for C-box, it's popular to have two c-boxes, one for IC and OCC. Sometimes you will have to adjust the crowd handed to you, since it's highly unlikely that the crowd as a whole will adjust for you. If you hate that idea, then only put up with people who are willingly to be considerate, listens, and follows the rules. If not...time to cut some strings.
*grabs scissors snip snip*
Just wanted to make an imput to help find a solution.
---Make rules --- IF the break rules, warning --- breaks it numerously, time to cut strings.
[sure...it's already in the rules, but with that ability to do so and everyone reason, you shouldn't be so stressed, angered, and annoyed. People may see it as picking on the little guy, but its called drawing the line.]
"Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me."
Lessons of today: Some people may not now their wrong unless it's revealed directly.
Not saying anything directly, only encourages the behavior, and making it general can be brushed off if not singled out.
If they still don't care them drop them like a new-born giraffe.
