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1st off, plot. Ever since I got here, it hasn't made much sense. I feel that, for the good of us all, we should start it up anew. However, part of me doesn't feel all that comfortable with launching a brand new plot right off the bat. I mean, we're still yet to see what occurs further back in the series' history (BBS and 358/2). What happens in these games may contradict whatever our new plot may be. Are we just going to exclude the events of these two games, or shall we wait and see what happens?
2nd, Keyblades and Keychains. We know that there are Keyblades. Sh*tloads of 'em (KH2 Secret Ending). What happened with all those, we've no idea. What we can be sure of is that all of the Keyblades we've seen in the games are exclusive to those characters (Otherwise, how else would Kairi have ended up with the flowery Keyblade?). New Characters = New Keyblades, I say.
*yawns* Can't come up with much more right now. I'll put up some more later ;D
With the Plot Thread thing - I never felt quite clear on that. It was always my feeling that - unless otherwise specified, ie. the mock trial - everything that happens, happens. It may not affect the great overarching plot, but it is still part of continuity.
What else... oh. What Locue Said. Please. And Gorrad - You mean and sub-board, or really sub-world?
I don't really have much that hasn't been covered in exhaustive detail already....
I think it would be useful to have sub-categories for different places/ landmarks in the worlds.
Like in Traverse Town * First District * Second District *Third District * Secret Waterway
Halloween Town * Guillotine Gate * Guillotine Plaza * Dr. Finkleston's Lab * Graveyard * Moonlight Hill etc
it easier to set a scene
If we did that for all of the separate landmarks then it will take too many threads to actually complete a thread.
I must say I'm am confused by your statement. Elaborate. What do you mean it takes to many threads to complete a thread? As in people would tend to travel to a different location to result in a new thread, or otherwise? Even so it takes too long to complete a thread now with or without the extra boards.
Ok, so I did some thinking today on the subject of the plot.
Yeah, I’ve come up with an alternative idea, but this time I'm thinking about what we have since everyone is reluctant to change it.
Let’s consider the following together:
Role playing is assuming a role and acting it out. Therefore it is acting. Acting is working to obtain an objective.
Even with an iffy plot there can be strong objectives which will equal a strong story. Right now, the objectives are too weak, so no action is taking place.
Objective+Obstacle=Action
Examples:
A good objective: To comfort the child by giving her a hug. This is a great objective. There is interaction, something to respond to, and very clear.
Obstacle: The child is behind bars.
Ooo, now there’s a super cool tension in all of five seconds!
Action: Do something rebellious!
A bad objective: To make a point by ignoring the younger brother. This is not such a great objective. There is no interaction, nothing to respond to and boring.
Obstacle: his brother keeps talking to him.
Action: Ignore...harder.
These are the bones of role playing. Objective and obstacle. Characters will choose actions based on their personalities and experiences.
Organization XIII objective: to take over The World That Never Was by killing Dark XII off (?) AND To regain their Hearts by repeating the act of strengthening Kingdom Hearts, possibly to feed off its sheer power or maybe sift through it and find the Hearts that belong to them… (??), though regressing a little in Roxas’ case.
Obstacle: Dark XII is strong AND it takes a lot of time and energy to collect Hearts. Heartless might be a limited resource.
Presumed Action: Attack Dark XII carefully AND kill a lot of Heartless. If Heartless are a limited resource, make more Heartless.
Dark XII objective: to take over The World That Never Was by killing Organization XIII off (?) AND to create their own personal Kingdom Hearts by collecting people’s Hearts.
Obstacle: Organization XIII is strong AND it takes a lot of time and energy to collect Hearts.
Presumed action: Attack Org. XIII carefully AND kill Heartless/make more for killing.
Ok...
So, there's lots of killing and not a lot of interacting. 26 people have been GIVEN objectives. Heartless become the most active component in the rp. Here’s a simple change: what if everybody was independent and only one or two people are actually assigned objectives?
What if someone like Larxene decided that since all the missions are on hold and Xemnas is being annoying, she’s going to sack a few villages in Port Royal because she wants to see if children’s screams will wake an emotion in her? What if Xigbar decides he isn’t going to follow the next bunch of orders he’s given. What if Axel loses all respect for the Organization and is flat out trying to find his heart is own way? What if a non-canon Nobody sees Xemnas and decides to help him because he likes his ideas? What if Demyx decides he wants to meet his Heartless? In other words: what if people actually were allowed to respond to what they’re given?
If Xemnas’ objective is to collect Hearts but his organization has lost unity, then his obstacle is VERY interesting and difficult to get around. He would need to work harder, gain their trust, tighten the reins, earn respect, create missions swiftly and effectively, recruit, delegate, the whole shebang.
Basically…let things run their course, with only a few specific items on the agenda.
Post by Ellie who has 0% on Nov 8, 2008 13:08:05 GMT -4
I like the ideal of given objectives. It will make the rp trascend more in the universal plot, instead of endless >=o MORTAL KOMBAT KH STYLE BATTLES RAAAAAAAAAAR >> without much of a motive instead >> the loathing rift between heartless, nobodies, and somebodies.. JUST FIGHTING BODIES WOOO!!!! o.o excuse ze caps, I'm very uppidy and excited for version 0.5
As long as we were on the thought of new boards, I would like to see the In, Out, and About boards. We do have someone who would like to be in constant flight, and others have plans for the Pathways of Darkness.
Post by Ellie who has 0% on Nov 8, 2008 15:24:04 GMT -4
O.o speaking of pathways of Darkness.....will there ever be The End of the World ...world, since it's the world of heartless >> then again ze heartless love raiding The World that Never Was, the nobody world. O.o also if there's a door of darkness << is there a door of light?
I think Professor Ludwig Von Drake (brillant scientest!) should be a character to figure out the meaning of all the keyblades, an I agree with OC's having OC's keyblades. An sense in the game characters like Cloud an Leon gave Sora keychains... maybe OC's should get that same treatment if the idea of 'what are we gonna do with the orginal keyblades if we get 2542523billion new ones flying around in peopls hands'.
What I don't get is how is a world seperated... if their on the same world (dark xii an org iii) then shouldn't there be like... battles every tuesday? An then comes the idea of what if the world was ssplit in two completely... an if they had the power to do that to one world... then... maybe they would possibly team up an do it to the other worlds an cause massive chaos - I mean O:
I feel maybe both dark people... worked together in order to capture Sora an Kairi- but org xiii doubled crossed darkii an stole kairi an sora to bring back roxas an namine. That could be a good reason as to why both sides strongly distest each other. Cause in the game KH2 you didn't really see heartless attack nobodies (vice versa) with out being ordered to. An sense Xemnas is gone.... wouldn't Ansem have control over both sides? An how would Xemnas or the other orgxiii even come back? Once a shell is destories... i don't think theres a way to bring back nothing- sense it didn't really was suppose to exist in the first place o.O.
All I'm trying to say... in hopes of helping the plot... maybe...
Ansem an his darkxii somehow managed to bring back orgxii (excluding xemnas at the moment ((two big egos trying to lead a big pack... no go)) but wants roxas back) in hopes of building a super army to battle an defeat the light. With this happing the hearts of all world cried out for more heros- giving the reason as to why there's so many keyblades flying around (let's face it the universe is never ending... uncountable number of worlds are floating around and the darkness is everywhere for it lies in every heart). King Micky an the Professor are trying to figure out how to bring the keyblade weilders together or how it was even possible for Ansem to bring back Orgxii (makes it a bit easier on explaining how ansem really did it).
Then Sora an Kairi get captured by the new group of baddies. An also Xemnas had some loyal followers- so we can say that they came up with a plan to back stab darkii an used Ansems skills to bring back Xemnas- who weas the one to get Roxas an Namine. So Riku an whoever wishes to join him could have the challenge of finding/saving Sora and Kairi (who we can also say managed to break free an trying to escape the dividing worlds of The World that Never Was) while the other keybladers an everyone else is off battle the darkness or the light or fending for themselves are skattered in the other worlds. Of course with the idea of 'let's take over the universe' is in the bad guys mind they can set out trying to take over worlds an battle each other.
If we did that for all of the separate landmarks then it will take too many threads to actually complete a thread.
I must say I'm am confused by your statement. Elaborate. What do you mean it takes to many threads to complete a thread? As in people would tend to travel to a different location to result in a new thread, or otherwise? Even so it takes too long to complete a thread now with or without the extra boards.
Sorry. I meant that if you wanted to make a thread and go somewhere else in the middle of it, then you would have to start another thread in there, and it would take much longer than it takes now.
I think Professor Ludwig Von Drake (brillant scientest!) should be a character to figure out the meaning of all the keyblades, an I agree with OC's having OC's keyblades. An sense in the game characters like Cloud an Leon gave Sora keychains... maybe OC's should get that same treatment if the idea of 'what are we gonna do with the orginal keyblades if we get 2542523billion new ones flying around in peopls hands'.
What I don't get is how is a world seperated... if their on the same world (dark xii an org iii) then shouldn't there be like... battles every tuesday? An then comes the idea of what if the world was ssplit in two completely... an if they had the power to do that to one world... then... maybe they would possibly team up an do it to the other worlds an cause massive chaos - I mean O:
I feel maybe both dark people... worked together in order to capture Sora an Kairi- but org xiii doubled crossed darkii an stole kairi an sora to bring back roxas an namine. That could be a good reason as to why both sides strongly distest each other. Cause in the game KH2 you didn't really see heartless attack nobodies (vice versa) with out being ordered to. An sense Xemnas is gone.... wouldn't Ansem have control over both sides? An how would Xemnas or the other orgxiii even come back? Once a shell is destories... i don't think theres a way to bring back nothing- sense it didn't really was suppose to exist in the first place o.O.
All I'm trying to say... in hopes of helping the plot... maybe...
Ansem an his darkxii somehow managed to bring back orgxii (excluding xemnas at the moment ((two big egos trying to lead a big pack... no go)) but wants roxas back) in hopes of building a super army to battle an defeat the light. With this happing the hearts of all world cried out for more heros- giving the reason as to why there's so many keyblades flying around (let's face it the universe is never ending... uncountable number of worlds are floating around and the darkness is everywhere for it lies in every heart). King Micky an the Professor are trying to figure out how to bring the keyblade weilders together or how it was even possible for Ansem to bring back Orgxii (makes it a bit easier on explaining how ansem really did it).
Then Sora an Kairi get captured by the new group of baddies. An also Xemnas had some loyal followers- so we can say that they came up with a plan to back stab darkii an used Ansems skills to bring back Xemnas- who weas the one to get Roxas an Namine. So Riku an whoever wishes to join him could have the challenge of finding/saving Sora and Kairi (who we can also say managed to break free an trying to escape the dividing worlds of The World that Never Was) while the other keybladers an everyone else is off battle the darkness or the light or fending for themselves are skattered in the other worlds. Of course with the idea of 'let's take over the universe' is in the bad guys mind they can set out trying to take over worlds an battle each other.
........
that make any sense?
It makes sense, but for me it's far too short- does that mean Riku will be looking around for Sora and Kairi till version 6.0? And Sora and Kairi's plot threads will be limited to wherever they're captured? Also, do you really think that the Keyblade master would be able to be captured and stayed captured at all?
I think Professor Ludwig Von Drake (brillant scientest!) should be a character to figure out the meaning of all the keyblades, an I agree with OC's having OC's keyblades. An sense in the game characters like Cloud an Leon gave Sora keychains... maybe OC's should get that same treatment if the idea of 'what are we gonna do with the orginal keyblades if we get 2542523billion new ones flying around in peopls hands'.
What I don't get is how is a world seperated... if their on the same world (dark xii an org iii) then shouldn't there be like... battles every tuesday? An then comes the idea of what if the world was ssplit in two completely... an if they had the power to do that to one world... then... maybe they would possibly team up an do it to the other worlds an cause massive chaos - I mean O:
I feel maybe both dark people... worked together in order to capture Sora an Kairi- but org xiii doubled crossed darkii an stole kairi an sora to bring back roxas an namine. That could be a good reason as to why both sides strongly distest each other. Cause in the game KH2 you didn't really see heartless attack nobodies (vice versa) with out being ordered to. An sense Xemnas is gone.... wouldn't Ansem have control over both sides? An how would Xemnas or the other orgxiii even come back? Once a shell is destories... i don't think theres a way to bring back nothing- sense it didn't really was suppose to exist in the first place o.O.
All I'm trying to say... in hopes of helping the plot... maybe...
Ansem an his darkxii somehow managed to bring back orgxii (excluding xemnas at the moment ((two big egos trying to lead a big pack... no go)) but wants roxas back) in hopes of building a super army to battle an defeat the light. With this happing the hearts of all world cried out for more heros- giving the reason as to why there's so many keyblades flying around (let's face it the universe is never ending... uncountable number of worlds are floating around and the darkness is everywhere for it lies in every heart). King Micky an the Professor are trying to figure out how to bring the keyblade weilders together or how it was even possible for Ansem to bring back Orgxii (makes it a bit easier on explaining how ansem really did it).
Then Sora an Kairi get captured by the new group of baddies. An also Xemnas had some loyal followers- so we can say that they came up with a plan to back stab darkii an used Ansems skills to bring back Xemnas- who weas the one to get Roxas an Namine. So Riku an whoever wishes to join him could have the challenge of finding/saving Sora and Kairi (who we can also say managed to break free an trying to escape the dividing worlds of The World that Never Was) while the other keybladers an everyone else is off battle the darkness or the light or fending for themselves are skattered in the other worlds. Of course with the idea of 'let's take over the universe' is in the bad guys mind they can set out trying to take over worlds an battle each other.
........
that make any sense?
The Sir Professor Ducky does sound like a great candidate to decipher the mystery of the keyblade, but I think the explanation would go beyond science. The keyblade have a significant connection with ones hearts. By that there would be another scientist..tampering with hearts, which has already been done before Kingdom Hearts.
The only thing I see in this plot are holes. How did Ansem returned? Plus if he returned, then so would Xemnas. They are pieces of a hole entity (msp?) Also with the existence of the Dark XII, Organization XIII would already exist. When a heartless is created, so is its nobody. Also >> I truly won't consider a "nobody" nothingness. I guess it's a title for feeling "nothing", they are still something...like matter...since they are the body and heartless is the embodiment of the soul. (Which is why only keyblades >> in some cases can harm heartless....Sora couldn't even slay them with a wooden sword.)
I also feel the same way though. How can key wielders be easily obtained? Both Kairi and Sora have keyblades. Seperating the two from it is close to impossible unless the wielder dies and keyblade rusts as a reaction.
Also I doubt The World That Never Was could be split, because it isn't a world to begin with, but the nobody alternate of The End of the World, a collection of heartless destructions. The World That Never Was...is technically a nobody in a sense.
well it would require science to figure out how to bring back a nobody- I mean the orginal plot for this site was that they returned. An that's something I find hard to see or believe because they were all brought defeated- an nothing can come out of a nobody for it was just a shell. An ansem is still lurking around because he was in the secret ending... except pretty old. Well if you guys are trying to bring back Ansem an Xemnas then maybe a third bad guy for the site should be broughten in to be the one to do that task. As for where he would go after the two have been broughten back we can say um... He's still lurking around. I mean where did the darkness start in the first place- an where did the light first have it's shine? Unless we say the 'Ansem' that is gathering together Darkxii really isn't Ansem... but ANOTHER POSER A much eviler an darker being that's been one of the many dark lords that has been around sense the beginning of the battle between light and dark an that's why he holds the power in bringing back orgxiii an why he wouldn't want Xemnas back an how he was able to capture Sora an Kairi .
As to how would a keyblade weilder allow such a thing to happen in the first place... um... well it was broughten up before. When your a bit out numbered your gonna go down- an with the "Ansem" having control of orgxiii an darkxii... I see chaos on Destiny Island be a bit to much for Sora to handle if they caught him off guard in a sneak attack.
I also thought that Yinsin (sp) would be the one with all the answers to the keyblade- well only on how a keyblade works. As for Sora, Kairi, an Riku all having a keyblade while Aries an Davy Jones don't well... that's easy to explain I think. The trio have taken it upon themselves to set out an journey the universe- an sense they all have strong hearts they were awarded keyblades (Davy Jones gave his heart to Cylipso ((sp)) to prove that he loved her/ Aerith sees it as her job to stay at Radiant Garden to help her friends at radiant garden- she doesn't need a keyblade to do that). As for the Sora/ Riku keyblade fight in KH1 that could be because Riku does have a heart as strong as Sora- but he wanted Sora's power... that's how he was able to take Sora's but because of his choses the Keyblade went back to it's orginal master, Sora. An in KH2 Riku was finally able to create his own Keyblade by the power of his heart... that's why they have their own keyblades now.
Then comes the question of why Sora is able to weild two. I see to that as Roxas... so sense now Roxas an Sora arn't together Sora should only beable to hold the power of one keyblade- but their still connected because Sora still has his heart giving Roxas the ability to weild a keyblade also. Saying that maybe Riku was put in Sora's shoes in that he'd be able to weild two keyblades insted of one.
Kairi could of gotten her keyblade due to her wanting to help her friends and the light in The World that Never was- her heart became strong so she was awarded one. Though i still don't see as to why she should keep it... ... :/ only because she didn't do anything snazzy to earn one really in the first place in my opinion.
Edit:: Oh yeah we can't have Sora an kairi always stuck in the castle. Well we can say during the time they were captured Xemnas was broughten back due to orgxiii using the skill "Ansem" used to bring them back becuase well... we can say Malfacent (sp) todl them that their leader Ansem wasn't really Ansem but the poser they really were. So she could break apart this mass army an still continues to be the ruler of all darkness (can't forget about her you guys! She's the queen of darkness!- an maybe we can say the poser Ansem is the KING of darkness o.O that could explain how she knew Ansem is a fake) an well the two groups are in consent battle on gaining complete control over The World that Never Was (I don't see the idea of them on that world running their plans with a rival right across the street working very well) an that's what made it so easy for Riku to save them.
Then of course they would go back an tell the King- who was already learning the possiblities of many other keyblade weilders thanks with the help from Yinsin an the Professor. An now we can have Three rival baddies- but one who just mainly sitting back and watching (an maybe can say Malifacent helps at times ((she did it before!)) so she would have complete control over darkness) while the other two are attacking the light and themselves thanks to the comands from Ansem and Xemnas (still the doubt those two would ever want to work together because of their egos).