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I would really like your guys' opinion on this subject.
I have fully rewritten the current plot and have hopefully made all unclear parts "more clear", but if no one wishes to role play that plot with the addition of the Keyblade War, then I need to know that.
If you would like a completely new plot all together then PLEASE post ideas. In the end the staff as a whole will approve a new plot if it is voted on.
But I would really like to stress that I am 100% against Nulls. We already have too many characters that just aren't being played and Nulls would only add to that problem.
Also, if you choose the new plot option, the Dark XII and Organization should be included in some way...
Didn't we already talk about this? We'd rather not get a whole new official plot, for the most part, but we probably need some way of covering for the people who aren't being played.
As it stands, it's dependent on the cannon characters and leaves little room for anyone else.
Anything that people do that plays into the structure of the world, though, should be allowed to have happened, and taken into account. I think there's some politicking going on that may yet be important.
And we know you said no Nulls. Really. We know. It was just an idea that no one shot down until well after one had been started. But it's fine.
Didn't we already talk about this? We'd rather not get a whole new official plot, for the most part, but we probably need some way of covering for the people who aren't being played.
As it stands, it's dependent on the cannon characters and leaves little room for anyone else.
Anything that people do that plays into the structure of the world, though, should be allowed to have happened, and taken into account. I think there's some politicking going on that may yet be important.
And we know you said no Nulls. Really. We know. It was just an idea that no one shot down until well after one had been started. But it's fine.
Well, it may have already been talked about, but clearly some people may have been uncertain about this decision. Also, of course cannon people should be involved in this thread, but the whole point of sites like this is to create your own[/i] character to rp as, and join in on the story to assist or destroy the heroes, or villains. And even though this has already been started, many newcomers have arrived, and they may be glum because they've already missed out on so much of the action, and the fact that the thread is closed.
Also, I agree entirely with Serif. But I also think that plot threads should not be closed, but should be open to at least a certain amount of people. Though, enough people to actually make the thread last, and people who are either constantly active, or are never inactive for an entire month/week, unless they have RL stuff to deal with. But we can't really control that event, so if someone is inactive for a week or more, then someone could skip their turn, or if they entirely leave, they should be taken out of the plot somehow, and someone else could replace them.
That way, the plot thread thing probally would not be a problem. And sorry, I got carried away.
As it stands, it's dependent on the cannon characters and leaves little room for anyone else.
This. I think the best way to counter this is more of exactly what is going on in the Disney Castle thread. A thread opened, and it expanded. Several high-end canon characters are involved, but the biggest driving force behind it are the OC's. Sora can't always save the day, that gets old and boring, new heroes need to be molded and shaped.
The plot, as it stands, is good. Not only does it give the board an open plotline, but it has plenty of room for growth. But it needs to be opened up more for the majority of the board, who use OC's more than Canons. I think having the OC's more involved would better lay groundwork for people feeling capable of handling Canons, thus handling two problems in one.
As for how to do this, I think the staff needs to be more hands-on, less thought-process on plot. No matter what you (the staff) come up with, it could be very easily derailed unknowingly by Joe Roleplay. It's best to take a single idea, lay it out for everyone to act on, and plan accordingly with whatever may come from it. This whole "we're working out a plot for 6 months" thing is not happening for anybody, and it only creates frustration in the member-base.
Post by Ellie who has 0% on Jun 6, 2009 14:05:45 GMT -4
...I would vote, but...I don't see this new revised plot. Despite it getting my vote, I want to see what I am voting for. If you have fully rewritten it then...where is it and why is edit current plot a choice? It sounds like more of..go with revision or new, since it's already been...editted. I just want to see what's been already revised, since
a.) You did it already b.) It's had clearly BEEN stated by you that we're sticking with the old plot with the epic plot idea thread. c.) This poll is quite self-explanatory with the landslide. d.)...you already editted it. --
It's confusing...we're still discussing Version 5.0 stuff...for so long, Ver 5.0 is here, and we're still discussing the creation of.....5.0. Have we even...moved or progressed from the last time this have been discussed?
I shall stop there now on this subject. No need to repeat what's been in a 10+ thread. ---------- Questions:
Since this is still related to plots...
With the activity going on, there are plot threads about...even in world's that lack moderators. The thing with plot threads...will they be recognized and known? Sure we have historians, but would there be a timeline or sort for everyone can know?
Sure we can chat about editting plot, but we also must find out..how would any of the plot transitions be recognized and revealed for everyone to know. o-o'' I've already seen someone trying to get into Castle Oblivion...which doesn't exist at the moment...
Serif: Yes this was already discussed but that was quiet awhile ago and I want to make sure opinions have not changed. If the members of the site want a new plot, then so be it, but if not then I'd like to know that too.
I think the main plot is open to any and all characters... I understand that there are three main characters that are involved the most: Mickey, Ansem and Xemnas, but original characters can be involved with many events. They can decide to join any of the three leaders, make their own group or fight baddies in the worlds. I would like some ideas as to how to incorporate other characters more easily since I cannot really think of any at the time...
I understand everyone was told about Nulls... I just wanted to bring it up so those who didn't get that memo understand. I'm not trying to be rude by bringing it up.
ESK: You are basically voting for the exact same plot, but it is a bit clearer and it involves ways and ideas for original characters to get involved. I didn't feel a need to post it because everyone knows what the current plot is...
I'm not allowed to ask the site if that's what they really want? I stated that a while back and I just wanted to see where opinions stood as of now.
There have only been 11 votes and no one has proposed any of plot ideas...
Yes the threads will be sorted and those who are considered 'plot' will be moved into the new Plot Events boards.
The Historians have been given the thumbs up to begin making their history threads and all big events in the plot will be posted and updated periodically.
I think the main plot is open to any and all characters... I understand that there are three main characters that are involved the most: Mickey, Ansem and Xemnas, but original characters can be involved with many events. They can decide to join any of the three leaders, make their own group or fight baddies in the worlds. I would like some ideas as to how to incorporate other characters more easily since I cannot really think of any at the time...
That's kind of both the solution and the problem at the same time. In some ways, the plot IS in fact open to any and everyone. The thing is, with so much focus being presented to said three characters, no OC could possibly wish to elevate higher than a second-tier. There's a glass ceiling in place that none but the Canon's can break through.
Like I said in my last post, I think more focus should be placed on the actual plot movement and schemes rather than the characters pushing them. Sora and Riku are fine, coming along, saving the day in a time of need. But giving access to everyone to have that important a character is what establishes not only the advanced writers this site totes to cater to, but gives a higher asipration to the everyday character who may be capable of holding his own against a Demyx or a Relena or even a King Mickey. Allowing the members to shape a plot based and pushed into action by the staff is where the true action would take place.
I'm still in the process of getting up suggestions for world-based plot, but Locue brought something to my attention that could be beneficial some days ago.
RG is a rather popular world, and this could apply to everyone, but a temporary knock-down of power for characters like Sephiroth and Leon and, heck, even Yuffie (who can be pretty dam strong) might create plot openings and such. Like returning the player to Level 1 at the start of a new game, you know?
He'd be able to explain it more, or Serif, but I think Locue's off at his summer thing for boy scouts.
While the main plot is nice, world centric ones. even just "every day things" makes a lot of difference and might spread people out more to get involved with more plot on other boards rather than hanging around Traverse or Twilight or Destiny Islands or Radiant Garden alone. (Not to say nothing's happening everywhere else-- I see threads in other places, too, just less concentrated so.)
Yes I would like more events to be going on in the individual worlds that way there's stuff going on everywhere.
We could start a thread to get a few ideas for plot-type things and/or the Historians should try and come up with somethings to do within their worlds.
I personally like the plot we already have, but a plot and story i used once for a creative writing class i realized would be good for this, just a few tweaks...
here's my plot idea, just the basics, if anyone really cares for details just pm me...
Something goes wrong with the cornerstone of light- An unknown and unfamiliar power smashes it to smitherines- A gateway opens up in the form of a keyhole- Keyblades along with warriors of said keyblades come out- Warriors dressed in dark armor and led by an unknown force- Inhuman zombie-like warriors that feel nothing and extremely hard to kill- They become main enemy- Org XIII/ Dark XII/ and the group of heroes team up- They're goal is to send them back where they came- Mickey in the deep depths of darkness researching what happened- Discovers that there is a Cornerstone of Dark in an unknown world-
kinda iffy but details make it better...
im up for just editing but just in case, this plot i think is pretty cool XD
well, I'm new here and I don't know much about what has been happening so far as RPing with the plot, but.....
to fix the concentration of threads and posting in one board, try having your baddies spread out a little more. Don't have them all constantly in one spot. Keep in mind what was happening in the first KH: there was a small group of baddies who were encountered all over the place. They were always there, always present, always a threat. That's what a group of baddies needs to be: ever-present. It's the foundation of a good plot. Otherwise, the action stops and the story stagnates until you just HAPPEN to run into that concentrated group of baddies again.
Of course, I'm saying this without knowing exactly what has been done to already correct this problem. haha. I'm just trying to give a helpful idea that may not have been looked at yet.
Anyway, so far as not letting the canons control the story? I agree with that. I've been in many RPs before where canons hve controlled the story and....well......it gets very frustrating for the people with original characters, and in those I've been in before like that, a lot of people with all OCs just quit because they were just kind of standing in the background getting ignored. I've actually quit a few RPs before because of that.
So....I'm going to go with what rook said. Put more focus on the plot movement and schemes and all that. And, if someone so chooses, maybe they could decide to petition a staff member to have their baddie become a major threat along with the Org/Dark XII. Or, again with the permission of a staff member, have their goodie do something tha twould MAJORLY affect the plot. A little bit of unpredictability is good in a story. It keeps people interested and involved.
Of course, this would require collaboration between the parties involved, but.....just a little bit of foreplanning just before an element of a story is put into play can help and go a long way.