Just a little advice from someone who obviously does not fit in here. Watch your attitudes. Ren, Cadey this is to you two. While i really don't know you, and after exchanging two messages with either of you i'm glad for that. Your attitudes are something you should work on. Never, and this is after years of Rping, have i ever been talked to in such a disrespectful manner and trust me that's a problem.
Cadey, when you look at someone's app and decide that maybe they don't fit well here, explain yourself with more than just, I've seen it before and it didn't end well. You don't know anything about me, and yet you assume just because you have never seen it work that it doesn't or that i lack the ability to make it work. Details, as they say can be a wonderful thing. The words 'Doesn't really mesh' is not details. I wish you luck in the future, but maybe you shouldn't be a app mod if your mind is closed to change. Had you listed even one flaw on the app besides, it doesn't really mesh i would have gladly worked on it. But since you didn't and then continued to spout the same reasons just doesn't show you in a good light.
Ren: You surprised me. I thought for a second i had come across someone who could respectably tell me something about my app, and in doing so could finally move forward. Not the case. If you ask me to explain something from my app, something like ability, don't dig into me for doing so while i edit my post. It sends the wrong message, and even though i hate to admit it,your last comment completely turned me off from this site. Also you assume i treated you like an idiot, and i beg to differ. If i wanted to treat you like an idiot, i would have posted a picture of a smiley face and put something like, "oh look at you typing words like a big girl." But instead i chose to just pack it up. Thank you ladies though, because you have shown me something that i haven't seen in a long time, even on the newbie sites. Arrogance beyond reason. You two (who have probably been together for a while right?) really shouldn't bite so hard into people who do things you don't agree with. Take whatever you want from this, but please don't dismiss it. Again i'm not here to troll, even though i am tempted to, but i'm gonna be the bigger person and just admit that i don't 'Mesh well' here with this place. I just refuse to put myself under people who have lost my respect as fellow writers. Good luck to you all in the future.
Really, I'm not surprised the kid posted something like this. =/
Ren and I have been doing this for a while, and really, neither of us approached his profiles with "attitude": we approached them both like how we've approach other apps.
We suggested him ways to fix his app, and he fought us instead of working with us to meet at an agreeable ground. He complains about us not giving detail, when his problem was in his apps he did not give enough. I lolled.
In the end the kid just wanted attention. Why else would he QQ so hard in the cbox? Or post even this?
Also note he deleted all his posts in his character apps... to hide how he handled things on his side...
...To quote his introduction thread:
i know that probably gives me the appearance of sounding like an elitist, but I'm not.
Yeeee - noooo... @.@
Welp, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Really don't. Whoever made it had no idea what they were doing and left nails sticking out everywhere.
Actually this would be a fine example for future members. If possible, get his failed profile or whatever it was and post it here underneath his. Or at least obtain the link. That way people can see the difference between him and you.
In other words: Show them how it's done. Provide an example of what not to do.
If this is the case then we need an official thread: WHAT NOT TO DO.
Any rejected apps/inappropriate responses/inappropriate threads should go back there and if anyone has an issue just relay them to this and show them what they did wrong. It's not hard, simply a copy+paste url on the thread, modify the post to include it, and done.
I wouldn't mind doing this myself if necessary. I've just been thinking that after five years (aka the beginning) of WD we know what we're doing and if they want to argue that we'll show them our experience.
Post by Ellie who has 0% (Inactive) on Oct 2, 2012 1:05:11 GMT -4
I'm glad that majority of us see eye to eye with this. It's hard to judge when someone delete posts (so much for being the bigger person) and when stuff like this...happens. Actually not to long ago, someone thought I was being harsh. Fortunately we were able to 'communicate' to show I wasn't and help him comprehend my judgement. Also...I can be just as a direct, which often is mistaken for crudeness.
It's not the first nor the last time a member left because he/she couldn't get or do what they wanted...ranging from 1/2 heartless, nobody of a nobody, heartless sex, and other concepts that are just hard to swallow and implement in WD.
What to take from this:
a.) If you have a problem or would like to find a second opinion, do not make the cbox a stage for it, especially in an unhealthy manner. If it's about staff rulings, then obviously you should talk to a staff member.
I've seen people emote on the cbox and turn shiz into a frenzy, unneccessary debate, annoyance, or that time when everyone deflated going 'wait...we were just manipulated to act this way, because...hesheit had a hissy fit..'.
There's a right and wrong way to go about things.
b.) I'm sorry but you can't make anything and everything here. You just can't. I know people use rps as a getaway, but WD have a trait that have a ground ruling of this universe, an attribute that seperates it from other rps...that let things happen "just because" and for the sake of fun and fandom.
For the extrema...I ran into one of Roxas dating Xion..over Namine, and I went "dude...you're a narcissist...you're dating...yourself...in a girl wrapper.."
c.) >> << You will be criticized for the rest of your life and it started...at conception. Don't take offense to it, especially when it's constructive. If you can't handle it...when people are trying to help you...then good luck.
d.) Try to change your word uses to bring a softer tone. -3- Although I know I...distaste sugar coating and skating around buuut after a while you'll know how some people will react to how you approach them.
Still Ellie is one to follow the beat of her own drum and follow through D...and dismiss it through her own judgement. I know may sound bad..hypocritical whichever but...eeeh... I tend to drink in whatever chaos I make. Sooo if you're going to follow your own head at least take responsibility of what you do.
Post by Ren (Inactive) on Oct 2, 2012 1:30:47 GMT -4
I don't have much to add on top of this but I am going to take responsibility for the fact that my final comment on his profile did sound a little harsh. When I was writing it, I felt it was perfectly logical, clear, and nothing to be taken as offensive; I reread it in a different mood this morning and wondered if I ought to have used a little more sugarcoating instead of bluntness.
Alas, live and let die, I guess. I definitely learned from that mistake; even though something about the profile may irritate me, I've got to reign in the critical tongue so I don't sound quite so... antagonistic. I have long since desired to have a more "clipped" or "unreadable" tone on the internets - anybody that talks to me in the cbox or MSN knows my sort of capitalization- and punctuation-less lingo and odd phrasings - but tone is a thing that can be misread... as well as mistyped. So, for what it's worth, I am sorry that that post of mine was a little rough and unyielding.
Still, I didn't think it was rude or elitist or arrogant or anything, or anything close to the sort of offense that would make him leave. Like... I'm not quite sure... how to respond to this...?
buuuuut yeah. Responsibility's due where it's due. I could have been nicer.
but sometimes nice just ain't how I roll -shades- PEACE
Post by Zephiris (Inactive) on Oct 2, 2012 1:57:24 GMT -4
-relaxes a bit- I was going to try to point that out, Ren, but worried I had read your tone wrong myself. Actually, I was gonna comment on many things you guys already touched on, so now I can happily shut up, nod agreeably with the above, and bid Marrow adieu.
Like Syn said in contrast to you, Blue, I think a bit can be gleaned from this, and has. xD
-rolls off to make a non-flippable pillow fortress with stolen nails from the door-