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I was giving thought to this last night. Suppose that Unbirth theory from the other thread is correct, maybe Terra, Aqua and Ven are all Unbirths of Xehanort, Kairi and Sora, fighting against the regular Unbirths in an attempt to become whole, like the Nobodies of Organization XIII. And Riku? Perhaps his Unbirth is the masked Dark Soldier, who shares the simliar attire as when Riku was slave to the Darkness in KH1. That would explain why Roxas and Ven look alike, why the Dark Soldier and Riku wear the same clothing, and why Terra bares an uncanny resemblance to Xehanort.
We'd kind of be cheering for the bad guys, but that would actually make Master Xehanort a true good guy, who is hunting them because they are what one might label "abominations" or threats. This might even explain why Xehanort has a true Keyblade with a keychain and all, and the Chaser's don't have them on theirs.
The rediculous consipiracy theories begin!
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING. Terra could've been an unbirth along with Ven, and aqua. Along with that from your Xion post. Xion isn't even a nobody and why Org. XIII still was called Org. XIII not Org. XIV. She truly is nothing. She is a true nothing.
Where exactly are you going with that? And how is it related to BBS? Wouldn't that fit better in as a General Discussion thread?
I don't think it really matters, it was awesome. *stabbed for double post*
I'm also wondering if you manage to get different keyblades because along the way no matter what i'll get bored with constantly using the same keyblade (it's who i am)
Jul 2, 2009 22:36:00 GMT -4
Last Edit: Jul 2, 2009 22:40:44 GMT -4 by shinjihirako
My only theory concerning BBS is that Terra one day becomes Xehanort.
*spoiler* Remember how in one of the Ansem Reports Ansem said that Xehanort had special powers? *end of spoiler*
I think that Xehanort/Xemnas might have had powers from his days as a Keyblade wielder--aka Terra. But the thing that really gets me is how at the end of the video BBS Terra's eyes flash yellow--the same shade of yellow as Xehanort's/Xemnas's.
Jul 18, 2009 20:42:33 GMT -4
Last Edit: Jul 18, 2009 20:54:24 GMT -4 by shinjihirako
Yeah, Era and I were talking a few nights ago and made reference to some of the lines in KH2 that are obviously geared towards other things, like Xigbar's "You don't look like you're HALF the hero the others were", and how Ven is familiar to him in 358/2 Days. She sent me a music video, and i couldn't help but wonder if anything extra was meant by Xemnas when he said "I'm all that's left... or... maybe I'm all there ever was."
I never thought about BBS as much as it appears you guys have but there are some moments that are interesting. The only big connections, that's not obvious, I was able to make was Terra's resemblance to Xehanort. From what I've heard Terra apparently has a big anger issue, which describes why his eyes turn yellow at the end of the scene. Also take notice how in Ansem's flashback you notice that Xehanort's eyes weren't yellow, yet both his Heartless and Nobody have them. Of course the question remains of what truly tempted Xehanort to look at the hearts of worlds.
Another thing I never thought of was how the Dark Soldier beside Master Xehanort could be in relation to Riku. It explains why he's chosen for the darkness and why his form is like that when Ansem takes control.
The only that confuses me on the subject is just the simply fact of their existence. If they are in fact "unbirths" then how is one created. I oringinally thought that they were just past versions of the group but after going more in Terra's situation I found that wrong. It could be at the overall end that the hearts of Ven and Aqua were taken and moved to other targets, being Sora and Kairi. Then maybe Terra defeated Master Xehanort and took his name. This explains why his Heartless took Ansem's name so easily. It also helps explain the age difference between Sora and Xehanort. Kind of also explains how Mickey knew that there was a key wielder out there but didn't know who exactly it was. *shrugs* doesn't explain Riku's situation however, but w/e we have to time to pounder. xD
A note: If I take one of your posts and cut it up like this while in discussion, I'm not trying to tear apart your thoughts, It's just easier to distinguish for me what I'm replying to, lest you get a jumbled mess of thoughts that are attempting to make sense...
From what I've heard Terra apparently has a big anger issue, which describes why his eyes turn yellow at the end of the scene. Also take notice how in Ansem's flashback you notice that Xehanort's eyes weren't yellow, yet both his Heartless and Nobody have them.
It's also been theorized that prolonged exposure to the Darkness will cause one's eyes to turn yellow, which explains Ansem the Wise, Xehanort's Heartless, Xemnas, numerous other Nobodies and Heartless. Riku was possibly saved given his blindfold covered his eyes completely, and he led himself with his heart.
The only that confuses me on the subject is just the simply fact of their existence. If they are in fact "unbirths" then how is one created. I oringinally thought that they were just past versions of the group but after going more in Terra's situation I found that wrong. It could be at the overall end that the hearts of Ven and Aqua were taken and moved to other targets, being Sora and Kairi.
Sora, Kairi, Riku, Ven, Aqua, and Terra all lived simultaneously until the younger trio was about 4 or 5 years old. They are not related, nor are they reincarnates. I do think that Ven's heart has something directly tying itself to Roxas and therefore Sora. Perhaps the scene with Ven saying he wants to be erased takes place on Destiny Islands and Sora is somehow close enough for his "erasure" to have an effect on him? Who knows...
Then maybe Terra defeated Master Xehanort and took his name. This explains why his Heartless took Ansem's name so easily.
Agreed. If Terra is Xehanort, then taking the names of mentors is a continuing trend, having taken Xehanort's, and again with Ansem... Unless Master Xehanort was never defeated, and passed his heart along inside of Terra, keeping his old name... But that's a whole other crazy conspiracy theory atop of far too many...
Lol I was bored today so I looked more into it and with unbelievable ideas Terra has to be Xehanort. Apparently Ansem said either to someone or in his reports that he found Xehanort who had no memories of his past. Whether he actually forgot or chose to forget is what needs to be known. Looking over the trailers Maleficent tells Terra directly about the seven princesses of heart. Coincidentally the worlds you visit have Snow White, Cinderalla, and Aurora the first princesses Maleficent has before Kingdom Hearts started.
Plus the eyes thing is a big help but what truly helps is what is seen in Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix. Zexion and on of the hooded Organization members ((can't identify voice)) talk to each other about "Xemnas' Secret". This secret is revealed to have something to do with the Room of Sleep. Ironic? But also the room was placed under Castle Oblivion which helps explain why the castle was created. Also you see Xemnas walking down to the room in another clip. While in the room you see armor that's stated to be Aqua's. Even her keyblade is still there. From what I've read and seen Nobodies have the ability to keep memories. Maybe Xemnas kept the memories from Terra because Terra is Xehanort.
not sure if this was said or not but yeah...o-o
Jul 20, 2009 14:44:15 GMT -4
Last Edit: Jul 20, 2009 14:46:04 GMT -4 by shinjihirako
xD it's coming in Japan near the end of December so expect it in the US around this time to late August next year. Or you can wait for the movie like HP fans.
Yeah, all of that is old news, we've discussed the better lot of it here before. Ansem the Wise did find a man with no memory on Radiant Garden some time ago, with no recollection of who he was, save the name "Xehanort". His name? Unknown, but certainly a name we know has precedence in Master Xehanort. Ansem would go on to tell us that he was a prize pupil and showed abilities he had never seen before.
And that hooded Organization member is Xigbar, who has seen Xemnas heading into that room with Aqua's armor and Keyblade many a time, and overheard him asking it questions... and once, he claims to have heard another voice in the room...
So yeah, I was surfing a bit through KH Wiki and I glanced a bit at Aqua's article, where I discovered that a new world has been revealed, Deep Space, which appearantly will feature Stitch, Gantu, Jumba and Sparky. The events will be based on the intergalactic parts from the Lilo & Stitch movies. And Nomura finally revealed the Unbirths' true name: Unversed.
So yeah, I was surfing a bit through KH Wiki and I glanced a bit at Aqua's article, where I discovered that a new world has been revealed, Deep Space, which appearantly will feature Stitch, Gantu, Jumba and Sparky. The events will be based on the intergalactic parts from the Lilo & Stitch movies. And Nomura finally revealed the Unbirths' true name: Unversed.
As you can guess by my characters here, A Lilo and Stitch world is ALL I need to get me to buy this game ...
Unversed is a cool name, but I always thought "Unbirth" had some sort of charm to it .... well, atleast these guys aren't named after that freaky fetish thing anymore.
Sept 5, 2009 13:50:22 GMT -4
Last Edit: Sept 5, 2009 13:51:44 GMT -4 by shinjihirako
Yeah, the world seems cool, Stitch will now be a party member and Aqua and him will have a boss battle with our favorite sea villan. I just need to get my PSP fixed now...
FROM RUMORS I'VE HEARD TERRA IS SORA'S DAD, THE EVIL GUY IS BOTH THE HEARTLESS[GUY IN ARMOR] AND THE NOBODIE OF XERANORHT, AND THIS GAME IS FROM THE FUTURE WHEN EVERYONE IN KH1 AND KH2 ARE LONG GONE